Joe Rogan Experience #2161 - Tony Hinchcliffe
Benzino on Dr. Umar vs Eminem, Being Coi Leray's Dad, Tony Yayo Giving Him a Pass & More
Benzino takes Adam on a journey through the ups and down of his life, his career, personal life, and his upcoming projects! Benzino sets the record straight on a few things. He is candid and holds nothing back! Could this be his last interview? ----- 0:00 No intro, Adam and Benzino jump right in 6:15 Benzino says they never accepted hip hop in New England, Boston, etc 14:15 Adam got familiar with Benzino, when the Source vs XXL war kinda started 17:40 Eminem situation: Benzino says Interscope was in bed with XXL after Benzino started beefing with Eminem 18:30 Benzino believes that he was still ahead of XXL with the unsigned hype, source awards, the tv show, UPN show, source all access, man on the street, etc 22:20 The Source website was the demise of their business, Dave took a 12M loan, got offices on 5th Ave, the whole operation crashed 27:11 Benzino didn't want to give 2 mics low grade to artists in general, felt like it was disrespectful, Dave wanted to be "truthful" and said otherwise 32:35 Adam reviewed the Eminem --- tapes that's on youtube, Benzino says there's an original tape with way crazier stuff on there 33:15 Bizarre was on Vlad tv saying that the original tape was some freestyle about all girls from all races (Benzino laughs) 33:58 How the tape was found: Three of Eminem's associates from his camp are the ones who called Benzino to sell him the tapes + Benzino got sued by Interscope to Federal Court for copyright infringements 34:34 At that point, Eminem associates were trying to sell that tape for like a year to whoever: "At the end of the day, Eminem made those tapes, he know what he said" 37:00 Benzino won the trial, the judge allowed Benzino to use about 30 seconds of the whole 40 min tape, Eminem's team had to pay 200k to Benzino's lawyers/team 37:12 Now we have fair use laws, thousands of youtube videos talking about it as we speak and no one gets sued 38:35 Did 50 Cent kill Ja Rule's career? Benzino says it was a time for a shift in music and 50 represented that shift 42:27 Benzino breaks down the Source federal investigation: because of his background in the streets, he was targeted 49:10 Eventually this whole operation fell apart, it cost too much money so they gave up, that's when they gave the accountant the wire to try to get something, maybe on the money side w taxe invasion or something 51:29 The trial starts, all white jury, Benzino sold his jewelry to pay his lawyers, after 5 days of trial, the accountant came to testify he was scared 54:27 Benzino lawyer passed out in court doing his closing argument, he recovered, came back, Benzino was found not guilty 1:33:50 Melyssa Ford said vixen are undervalued in hip hop 1:39:10 Dr Umar statement about Eminem: Benzino says of course we can have a white GOAT in hip hop 1:43:07 Benzino admits letting his personal issues with Em getting into the business and using Source to promote the beef: "I was wrong, that's not good business" 1:47:30 Adam admits he had negative feelings against Benzino from that Eminem era, but Benzino did what any media was supposed to do, ultimately Eminem got away with it and ppl moved on 1:49:43 Em took a break after that, Benzino says Crooked i was right there when Benzino got the tapes at the office right before the press conference, Crooked i came to the press conference, Benzino says Crooked i is not truthful about what really happened that day 1:51:51 Adam and Benzino say Eminem should be more present (even tho most rappers say he's washed and don't listen to him, so why would he more present?) 1:55:55 Coy Leray: Benzino is still amazed by how her career blew up, he also regrets going back and forth online with her 1:58:10 Being able to see her being successful is a great feeling, rappers' kids almost never have a rap career 2:04:23 Drake vs Benzino: Benzino says Coi told him when Drake texted/DMd her, he invited her, wanted to fly her out 2:05:05 She eventually told Drake about Benzino, and in typical Drake fashion, sent him an iconic photo of Benzino and called him a legend 2:09:15 Benzino went to a couple Diddy parties but never the weird parties 2:12:16 Falling back on telling Coi what to do, he doesn't wanna go back and forth online w her 2:25:45 Beef with Vlad, says Vlad got too arrogant 2:29:20 At the end of the day, Vlad sued Rick Ross, took him to court and bragged about it for years 2:31:55 This is most likely the last podcast Benzino gonna do 2:39:00 Benzino did not agree with Joe Budden when he came at Youngboy 2:45:09 Benzino talks about The Pain In Full Foundation, founded by Nas and his partners including executive Steve Stoute, the foundation gave $500,000 as well as health care to Hip-Hop “contributors who didn’t get what they deserved.” The first recipients are Rakim and Scarface 2:46:20 Tony Yayo on Vlad giving Benzino a pass? 2:50:20 Says Yayo is a liar and a storyteller, Yayo got cereal poured on his head at Rikers really happened